video games ART???

There have been many recent discussions of videogames if they are art or not. In plain terms they are "art" and the answer is yes. The problem is anything that is mass produced in this nature is considered not to be art by the "art world". But my argument is that if movies can be considered art then so can videogames. But if you think about it videogames are even more so art than movies. Because in art it takes someone to create something out of nothing be it on a canvas or some kind of media.
So if we look at creating and designing things we can look at character creation, costume design, weapon creation, city architecture and planning, landscaping, graphic design, industrial design, recreation of art in real life and many other things that "real world" artists would do in everyday life. Not to mention the really good people that design these games usually have classical art training even before they design and build their first game.Lets look at movies again actors and directors consider themselves artists. But Movies are not really considered art films unless they are done independently on some film students home movie camera. The same should ring true for games but it does not. You have the big blockbusters like Halo and Grand Theft Auto, there are also recurring stars like Sonic and Mario. And the smaller produced games like Okami, Psyconauts and Beyond Good and Evil are considered arty games, at least in the gaming world.So as a graduate from art school with a minor in art history I can surely say that videogames are in fact "art". Because lets face it once a urnal was hung in an art gallery and considered art pretty much anything goes after that point.